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    plankowner21
    Jan 09, 2017

    Class S Team Rakings

    in General Discussion

    So I get that the site is set up to aggregate wrestlers and award points to a team based on their ranked wrestlers. Here's how they are stacked right now:

    1 Montville

    2 Haddam-Killingworth

    3 Morgan

    4 Windham

    5 St. Paul

    HM Granby


    Granted that I am a Ledyard Wrestling Fan but there must be an "intangable" in the rankings to account for teams where their wrestlers will very likely outplace their "ranks". I believe top 3 will be Ledyard, Windham and Montville.

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    scott
    Jan 09, 2017

    I think the best and possibly only way to fairly measure the "intangable" you reference is in the Class S Tournament.

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    plankowner21
    Jan 09, 2017

    That makes for "Hind Sight" which as the euphemism goes is 20/20.

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    plankowner21
    Jan 09, 2017

    Let me also clairify that I am no trying to say that the wrestlers from any other school are bad or their team is not good, that's not my point. Smaller schools are notorious for not having full line ups. Teams like Ledyard, Montville and Windham typically only have one or 2 weights where they place a JV that might not really be ready for Varsity tournaments. Those points will be the difference on Saturday.

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    z06068
    Jan 10, 2017

    not sure st paul should even be in the top 10. nonnewaug beat them and they only beat oxford on criteria. and both of these teams have been beaten by other berkshire league teams. if anything, terryville should be ahead of them and even northwestern, who beat both nonnewaug and oxford

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    nowakowski
    Jan 11, 2017

    besides outplacing their ranking, the other two biggest factors in creating an accurate predictor for team placing at the Class tourney are the points scored by non-placers (typically highest for deep teams with limited holes), and accurate values assigned to ranking, for while a 6-5-4-3-2-1 scale does work easily, the average points scored would be more along the lines of 24-21-18-16-13-11. also, the points earned by placers can be impacted by bonus points. have seen two very different means of earning almost identical point totals, such as 6 finalists and no other placers vs no finalists and 11 medal winners. lastly, the person referencing a team's dual meet performance should realize that these rankings are derived from state tourney predictions, not dual meets (whereas a team with 3-4 high scorers will do well at Div or open but will suffer in duals).

    plankowner21
    Jan 11, 2017

    What I've observed is that a team with 3-5 Hammers will place better at the Opens than they will at their Class tournament. Class Tournaments, especially the M's and S's, test the number of scorers and the ability of your best wrestlers to rack up bonus points. Where I saw it best illustrated: South Windsor 2013 was 3rd in the LL Tournament but climbed to 2nd at the Opens, tied with Windham. South Windsor scored more points at their Class tournament but the team ahead of them - Trumbull couldn't outpace them at the Opens. They were 8th at the New Englands that year behind Danbury and New Fairfield (who was 16th at the Opens). NF Scored 49 points on the backs of 2 wrestlers (Shay and Amorando) at the New Englands.