scott
Jan 28

FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR AWARD

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Is there one? If not there should be one. My vote is for Matt Weiner from Shelton.

He has been ripping it up as a Freshman in the 285 weight class - which is not an easy task for a young wrestler.

Run.the.Pipes
Jan 28

I am pretty sure connwrestling has done a freshman award in the past. I agree with you that Matt is having a great year, but it's way to early for nominations. The post season will clarify a true winner, regardless of weight class.

sweep the leg!
Jan 29

Haven’t seen him wrestle since youth. There are a lot of solid freshmen this year , and no weight class is any easier than another.

scoolover
Jan 29

No weight classes are easire than others but a freshman 285 pounder winning (lets say) 30 matches is WAY more impressive than a 106 pound ninth grader winning 30 matches.

Run.the.Pipes
Jan 29

wins are great and get our athletes good seeding for the class tournaments, but placing in Opens/ NE's wins Freshman of the year awards in my opinion. It will be fun to see how the year turns out. I've watched Matt wrestle at high level youth competitions for a number of years. best of luck to him!

sweep the leg!
Jan 29

I couldn’t disagree more with you school. No disrespect to you obviously you have the right to feel how you want. To me personally I can’t stand watching a slow heavy weight match. I’d rather try and scrape old chewed gum off the bleachers , atleast it will keep my attention. Again that’s me personally and every one is entitled to their own opinions. That being said I’ve seen Matt wrestle at high youth tourneys as well and he is a solid wrestler and I also wish him the best of luck always.

Run.the.Pipes
Jan 29

@sweep the leg! i think this year in particular, HVW lacks depth overall in comparison to 106.

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mophie
Jan 29Edited: Jan 29

I would say these are the frontrunners:

 

Mike Longo - 106

Kai O'Dell - 106

Will Ebert - 126

John Mairano - 132/126

Sam Bergin - 160

Matt Weiner - 285

 

Bergin is probably the most impressive. His weight class is almost all upperclassmen and athletic, and the most unusual spot for a freshman to shine. Ebert and Mairano would get a weighted edge using similar criteria, I would think that Weiner, Longo or O'Dell need a dominant Open to be the guy. Just my two cents.

sweep the leg!
Jan 29

Haven’t seen Bergin but Ebert is definitely in a tough class , and a great wrestler. Longo and O’Dell are definitely the two freshman in a tough tough bracket filled with two tough sophmores,a junior,and two seniors. Another freshman who is doing really well in a bracket filled with upperclassmen is Mason Lishness. He’s not on the level of the upperclassmen in the 113 bracket but he is definitely one to watch. Especially since he really should be at 106 but has a junior in front of him there.

mophie
Jan 29

@sweep the leg! Isn't Lishness a sophomore? I thought I saw him in some of the 99 lb brackets last year, and BE had good seniors at 106 and 113.

mikspik
Jan 29

@mophie Mason Lishness is def a sophomore

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sweep the leg!
Jan 29Edited: Jan 29

scoolover0 Likes  ·  0 Top Comments7 hours ago

No weight classes are easire than others but a freshman 285 pounder winning (lets say) 30 matches is WAY more impressive than a 106 pound ninth grader winning 30 matches.

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That is exactly what you said! And by using all caps saying WAY more impressive is what I was responding to. It sounds like you’re WAY too excited about watching a heavy weight pin a kid in 30 seconds. i Never said anything bad about Matt bud! I actually said the exact opposite. I just said it’s not my cup of tea. So yes do I find the lower weights more exciting? I sure do! I tend to be “impressed” by things I find “exciting”! There’s just nothing impressive or exciting to me about ANY of the heavy weight matches I have seen this whole season.

scoolover
Jan 29

Okay so what you are saying is that you would vote for a 106 pounder who is 2-23 over a HW who is 23-2 because you like the type of wrestling better. I can live with that.

sweep the leg!
Jan 29

@scoolover talking to you makes me want to hit myself in the head with a hammer! The freshman that we’re named at 106 are like 30-2 and 25-4 so no nobody that is 2-28 was mentioned and nor will they be.

 

Now if you aske me if i would rather rather watch a freshman who is 2-28 wrestle or a heavyweight who is good at tackling and sitting on someone ? then the answer is yes I would watch the 106 match all day long. Again it’s my personal preference! Sorry you don’t quite understand . I tried to talk as slow as I could for you but I guess you can’t teach stupid. I’m done wasting my time with you schoolboylover!

abdoshaban
Jan 30

I generally like to pick the awards around now so when I order the trophies I have the names engraved. It is a ”risky” guess because you never know if someone is gonna have a bad tourney at the division or opens. Last year I think it was pretty clean cut it was between Mastroianni/Finn and I went with Mastroianni due to his national accolades coming in to HS (was on florankings for a few weeks) and I believe his only losses in CT were Mel?

This year seems like a lot more guys are in the mix so I may do a vote I believe it‘s more

Ebert/Bergin as the top 2 followed by Mairano/Weiner.

 

There is is also the wrestler of the year award

Run.the.Pipes
Jan 30Edited: Jan 30

I guess if you had to make a decision at this time, then Ebert would have to be the favorite IMO. 2nd place finish at Lowell is probably the most impressive accomplishment out of any of the freshman results this year.

Domin8tor
Jan 30

Ebert has my vote. Ebert vs Jack in 126 State Open finals, my prediction.

Run.the.Pipes
Jan 30Edited: Jan 30

@abdoshaban forget about an engraved name, lol hold of on this award and lets see how this out!

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scott
Jan 30

Why Matt Weiner should win Freshman of the Year

27-2 w 26 pins (had 24 pins pre shor shuffle and I am assuming he pinned first 2 in tourney)

Pinned:

Morales LL3rd

Houston LL 4th

Salami L 2nd

Falivene S 1st (one of his losses was to Falivene and one was to Smykle L 1st)

Sneickus S 3rd

Beat Boyles M 5th 8-3

Why is it so rare to have a Freshman do so well in the heavier weight classes? I do not know. But it is extremely rare and Weiner does not appear to be winning by being bigger or stronger than his opponenents. Please set forth the basis for Ebert, Bergin and Mairano.

 

sweep the leg!
Jan 30

To be a good/great heavyweight wrestler you need 1 good move from neutral and normally that equates to a pin as you demonstrated by Matt’s record. To be a great 126 you must have a deep arsenal of moves from all 3 positions and be technically sound. My vote goes to Ebert as well!

scott
Jan 30

@sweep the leg!

So by that reasoning Heavies are not to be considered for wrestler of the year.

At what weight does one have to be under to be considered for such an award: 182?

To suggest only those with the most moves in their arsenal should be considered is silly.

By that logic, heavier wrestlers will rarely receive such an award. Matt's record demonstrates dominance as a freshman in a weight division where most freshman get destroyed. There are some heavies with only a couple tools in their toolbox, but that is not the case for Matt.

scoolover
Jan 30

@scott -- sweep the leg has made it clear that he would only vote for someone he finds exciting despite any award criteria. I get it though. Young lightweight studs are a dime a dozen while young stud heavyweights are rare.

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Run.the.Pipes
Jan 30Edited: Jan 30

You definitely did your homework on Matt. Below I compared Weiner/Ebert best wins and losses. i don't follow Warde closely enough to know Eberts wins over class ranked opponents, or his total win/pin count.

 

To be honest, wins over M5 and S3 ranked kids is not what wins this type of award, the post season will paint a picture of who the real winner is, as i posted earlier. While 26 pins is impressive, 21 of those were to athletes not ranked at all, so i wouldn't really consider those to be high quality wins. Just curious, how many of those "pins" were forfeits?

 

Ebert has 3 losses on the year, all 3 are to wrestlers ranked in the top 5 in NE. I am in no way rewarding a loss, just pointing out that Warde seeks much tougher competition than Shelton does. Weiner could possibly have a much different record/pins if Shelton wrestled outside of there soft schedule. I see Ebert as a potential Open finalist and NE placer, while i hope Matt can do the same, i haven't seen him wrestle at a high level to make that assumption.

 

Weiner:

Best Wins: #4 CT Open, #3 CT Open

Losses: #3 CT Open (Pinned) , #4 CT Open (Pinned)

 

Ebert:

Best Wins: #7 New England, #6 Mass, #6 CT Open

Losses: #1 CT Open/NE (10-5), #5 NE (2-1), #1 RI/4 NE (3-2)

 

Run.the.Pipes
Jan 30

From the list you shared, Matt has 4 forfeits on the year counting as wins.

 

I also noticed he has 10+ pins in 30ish seconds or less. I'm sorry but that just goes to show the lack of competition at HVW.

scott
Jan 30

@Run.the.Pipes

I did not count any of the forfeits. But upon recount I noticed two duplicate entries for the win v. Northwestern and one other wrestler. I agree the final outcome at State Open and New Englands should play the most signifcant role in this context. But it appears this award from this website pulls the dough out of the oven before it is baked.

chuck
Jan 30

Mairano:

Best Wins: Smart LL #3 10-7, Accousti LL HM 5-1, Shabazz, #5 L 5-1, Kosak #5LL 10-4,

Brian Caldwell #12 NE 6-4, Castaldo LL #4 6-1, Dylan Washburn M #4 Pin, David Charron M#2 8-6

 

Losses- Nichols L#2 3-2 & 3-2 3OT, Accousti 10-7, Nate Williams NE#4 2-1,

Connor McGonagle #1 NE 6-0, Michael Bobola #10 NE 5-4 2OT

Run.the.Pipes
Jan 30

Mairano is having a really solid freshman year. I was actually most impressed with his match with McGonagle at the holiday tourney. he wrestled 3 tough periods and made Connor work for his points.

 

Honestly, the thing that hurts nominees the most is bad losses IMO. Much like college football, teams with "bad" losses or lack of schedule (i.e UCF) always get snubbed. Mairano losing to Accousti is not a good look, Accousti has a handful of losses this year. His wins over smart shabazz and Caldwell are solid. Weiner is the UCF in my Opinion, solid season, no competition.

chuck
Jan 30

@Run.the.Pipes Agree 100%. The Accousti loss was kind of BS if you watched the match and he avenged that loss with a solid win. The 2 Nichols losses,same thing, could have gone either way in both matches. L's and opens like you said earlier will be the final "real" test.

bst
Jan 30

Agree Mairano has had outstanding year wrestling tough competition. He would get my vote. Smart win was very impressive.

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abdoshaban
Jan 30

I am willing to hold off the award until after New England's as it is pretty close. Another one up for discussion is wrestler of the year, I was planning on giving it to Calo but unfortunately he's out. The other guy was Jack. What do you guys think? I'll probably wait out on this award too this year and most likely have a poll up with the nominees.

 

Previous ConnWrestling Award Winners:

 

Wrestler of the Year:

2017 - Jakob Camacho

2018 - Ryan Luth

 

Freshman of the Year:

2018 - Justin Mastroianni

bst
Jan 30

Think a good idea to hold off. Wrestler of the year either Jack or Sung. Hard to put anyone over Jack so I would go with him

mophie
Jan 30

I'd hold off....that one is even more dependent on post season results than FotY.

Run.the.Pipes
Jan 30

@mophie @bst i think CT has a few guys who may win Open/New England's this year and that will surly put them in the running for Wrestler of the year. Jack with a Super 32 Finals appearance, Beast of the East AA, and Eastern States title is going to be tough to beat. Only if he fails to take home a NE title, i don't see anyone out performing him.

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Run.the.Pipes
Feb 13

hey everyone, I'm getting this topic going again. A few of those mentioned freshman had good weekends.

 

Weiner: 2nd SCC

O'dell: 1st FCIAC

Longo: 2nd FCIAC

Ebert: 3rd FCIAC

Mairano : Did not compete in conference weekend

 

Class tournament is another layer that will continue to weed out a winner here. i think Weiner has a legit shot of pushing thought to LL finals, i think he can wrestle with Agosto and pull out a win.

 

Longo/O'dell can make a run for a title and i think will see each other in the finals. Mairano at 26 in the L should be a champ, I'm very Surprised to see the level of competition at L 126 to be honest. not one wrestler in the bracket is a returning class placer, Only 10 seeding points were needed to land the 1 seed.

 

Ebert drew the 5 seed so he will see Jack in the Semi's, sure to knock him into the wrestle backs there.

 

Good luck to all!

mophie
Feb 13

Bergin is still the guy who has faced upperclassmen all year and displayed the technique, ability and results to be the favorite. He didn't wrestle this past weekend either. Would compare him to Tsirinades last year, who without Mastroianni in the mix might have won.

Run.the.Pipes
Feb 13

Good call on Bergin, he is definetly in the mix as well and has a shot at winning L

Matratohboy
Feb 13

Great call on Bergin. Totally legit.

sweep the leg!
Feb 17Edited: Feb 18

So as of right now I would say there are 4 in the mix after Class championships. Mairano(126 class L title),Bergin(class L 160 title) ,and Longo (class LL 106 title. ), O’Dell (106 class LL 2nd place),Peter Kane GFA (132 prep New England champ.)

Run.the.Pipes
Feb 18

Still jumping the gun here... 2 more weeks to settle this... all listed above are definitely in the mix, but you can’t count out o’dell And weiner just yet. Both placed in class. O,dell has a county tittle over Longo too.

 

on a side topic, i’d Love to see how Kane matches up with parrot and fields

 

sweep the leg!
Feb 18

@Run.the.Pipes true, I was just keeping the conversation alive and up to date. I will add O’dell in the mix, and I would like to see the Kane match as well.

josephprovo
Feb 17

Peter Kane of GFA won the prep states and New Englands @132 , there is more wrestling in CT then I see written about. Freshman

sweep the leg!
Feb 17

That’s a great call , and yes I absolutely forgot about GFA as they are a private school. I will edit my list to include him. Thanks Joe

josephprovo
Feb 17

He is a pleasure to watch wrestle, amazing kid

sweep the leg!
Feb 17

I couldn’t agree more! I’ve been watching him for the last few years as a youth wrestler. Those Kane’s have a strong pedigree for wrestling in their family.

Run.the.Pipes
Feb 23Edited: Feb 23

looks like this may need to be settled at New England!

 

Linder /O’dell wrestling for a chance to go rob NE

 

Mariano/Ebert battle for 3rd at opens and the winner is my favo to win this award right now ...

 

weiner still has a shot to qualify for NE

sweep the leg!
Feb 24

Tough call on this! I have to say Eibert is my favorite but Odell looked good and you can’t count him out.

sweep the leg!
Feb 24

How did Kane finish at prep nationals?

 

Run.the.Pipes
Feb 24

No placement for Kane, he did win a handful of matches.

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