Make sure for your initial rankings to move Fairfield Ludlowe wrestlers (Nicholas @ 126 and Pressler @ 113) to the LLs, and to move any of the Amity wrestlers into the L rankings (e.g., Flaherty @ 182).
ggmarshall
Nov 16, 2019
Alex Marshall of Bristol Eastern will wrestle at 152.
scott
Dec 26, 2019
I am not sure why D'Sean Martin from Simsbury is No 2 in Class L and not the No. 1.
He wrestled Eric Facey from BC at Opens and pinned him. At Class L they did not wrestle but had a common opponent: Mackenzie from New London. Mackenzie beat Martin in a 3-1 decision in the consi semis and then pinned Facey in the 3rd place match in 1:22.
mophie
Dec 27, 2019
Need to get Kahlil Bourjelli from New Milford into the mix at 138. Likely top 3 finisher with the ability to win the whole bracket.
sweep the leg!
Dec 29, 2019
rapuano is clearly 113 + . Lindner beat Thompson today.
sanctuss7
Jan 5
Class L rankings are updated (sorry for the delay, been a busy holiday season). I think i have captured most of the results, but I'm sure i have missed something, so please loyal Class L fans, tell me what I've messed up. Be brutal :)
Just a note, I dropped Tyler Sung off as he has not wrestled yet this year and I understand that he has had offseason surgery and may not wrestle this year. He clearly would be at #1 at any weight he goes, but until I get some results, I left him off the rankings.
oscar1bad
Jan 7
Dropping Tyler Sung from Class rankings is fair if he is inactive, but he should stay in P4P.
Well, I'm biased being a New Canaan fan, but I don't see how you drop Ben Clay from 4 to 6 in 285 for going 11-1 with the only loss being a 3OT gasser and all victories by fall, but whatever. Looking at the kids above him, none have done as well, though I give Martin a pass for the level of competition he's faced. There's a lot of wrestling left to do and I'm sure a lot of questions will be answered on the mat.
Innocent Bystander
Jan 7
I don't think anyone is going to be "brutal," you've got a tough job especially considering the sorry state of results reporting. Weight classes are still moving around a bit and some kids with more losses have had them facing much tougher competition. We (other site users) need to help out more with sifting through the results and pointing out the key matches--otherwise you're trying to clean the Augean Stables in a day. It's still too early to have real confidence in the Class rankings, but they do show us who to keep an eye on.
michaelminevich009
Jan 26 · Edited: Jan 26
Michael minevich from east lyme went 3-1 the branford tournament only losing to luis Bradley and earlier on he beat ranked kids like Monty goldberg from staples and luke velpo from branford
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chuck
Jan 7
Kasson from Simsbury is wresting 120 not 126.
sweep the leg!
Jan 12
Rapuano wrestled 113 at eastern states so he is certified to do it . Just because he’s wrestling 120 I wouldn’t rank him there. Why would he certify there if he doesn’t intend to wrestle opens and New England’s there?
robertjmastroianni
Jan 13
there was a 4lb allowance at eastern states
sweep the leg!
Jan 13
@robertjmastroianni yes Rob but the way it was explained to me was if a wrestler doesn’t certify to wrestle at 115(113) he/she can’t wrestle that weight anywhere regardless of allowance.
Innocent Bystander
Jan 28
@sweep the leg! You are correct on the rules.
Matratohboy
Jan 13
Sweep could be wrong but since it is out of state they can go under their certified Connecticut weights. I am not sure of this but I think that may be true. I also do not know what weight Mike is certified at.
sweep the leg!
Jan 13 · Edited: Jan 13
I’m not wrong! They can’t wrestle at a national event at a weight they did not certify for. Just because it’s out of state doesn’t mean you can break rules and cut a ton of weight that you weren’t certified to cut to. If you did not certify 108 you can’t wrestle 106 anywhere . If you didn’t certify 115 you can’t wrestle 113 anywhere. #facts
sweep the leg!
Jan 13
It makes no difference if you are the only person matrat that seems to care about this website , and it’s rankings. Good for L but sucks for everyone else. I’m sure you’ve see my posts in general forum. We are a month into the season and have a ton of kids at the wrong weights. Is this going to be fixed?
Matratohboy
Jan 13
I have no idea, I don't do the rankings.
sweep the leg!
Jan 13
@Matratohboy oh ok my bad 🤗 I thought you were one of the 4 moderators.
CTWRESTLING1
Jan 13
Arnold From Wethersfield Is 113
sanctuss7
Jan 13
Lot of passion of the forums today. Love it.
I am going through results and will update rankings tomorrow. Kids weights are still moving around, so please be patient as I do my best to get kids in their right weight. It is quite possibly the most frustrating part of the ranking process. Any insights are welcome, especially if you know the kids/coaches and know where they are planning on wrestling at states. Simsbury is one of the most frustrating teams as they were moving kids weights around right up to the end of the year. They have a lot of talented wrestlers and I understand coaches do it to help the team/kids, but it does make rankings harder. All insights are appreciated.
sweep the leg!
Jan 13
That’s coach Silva for you lol. Thx for the updates.
oscar1bad
Jan 14 · Edited: Jan 14
Class L 285
Facey from Bristol Central (285) has no results this year. If he isn't wrestling, he should be dropped (as was done with Sung and others). If anyone has results for him, kindly clue us in.
St. Peter beat D'Sean Martin (3OT) at John Gorman Invitational in RI last Sat. It's amazing how many matches St. Peter takes to overtime, but it seems to work for him.
Highley--No results. there was a dual w/ New London, but nothing online that I could find.
Coscia lost to Rescanski (Foran Class M #3) 1/2 No other results as Amity doesn't seem to report.
Clay went 4-0 at Long Island West Islip Duals (Islip, West Islip, West Babylon, and South Side), 1/11 took 2nd at Greater Hartford Open at Hall HS--lost to Thomas Perry of Haddam Killingworth in the final. Clay was sidelined with the flu and did not compete at Class L last year (sent JV kid instead) so he isn't on the board.
Note for Open Rankers:
Thomas Perry this season has victories over D'Sean Martin (2L), Minsook Lee (1 M, 1 Open), LeDuc (6th S), Ralsky (5M), Clay (6L))--seems Perry should be ranked in Open having beat the Open #1 as well as 2 of the top 5 RI HWTs (Sanford, Coventry & Giles, Chariho).
oscar1bad
Jan 14
I also agree with an ealier post. D'Sean Martin pinned Facey at the Opens. Why is he behind him in the Class ranks? They never met at the Class L, so why does the place result (which is a function of brackets/seeds only in this case) carry so much weight?
sanctuss7
Jan 14
I have updated the heavies. Facey went 3-1 at the East Haven Duals. he has a number of results this year. I feel comfortable ranking him. Highley went 1-1 at the Killingly Duals and I think 2-2 at the Staples duals last weekend. Lost to Rizy by Pin, no shame there. East Lyme has done all dual meets this year, so it is a bit harder to find their results on Flo, but they all seem to be there. Watching Clay closely, he has some really good results this year, but needs to beat the guys above him to move up. I think he may be able to do it, but I can't move him up on a feeling. Need results. I'm sure they'll come.
oscar1bad
Jan 15
@sanctuss7 "Beat the guys above him?" That's just B.S. Clay was 4 in pre-season, you put 2 guys above him that didn't beat him (how did that work?). Clay would have been 5 or 6 seed in Class L CIAC but was scratched due to sickness and New Canaan sent the JV guy in his place. Rankings aren't that important, but don't pretend that 4 & 5 are above him based on results--neither have wrestled him--and you dropped Clay below them w/o needing to see them "beat the guy above them." Coscia was pinned in the first round LL by a guy Clay pinned in 20 seconds.
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mophie
Jan 14
Iamunno is the #2 in L.
Innocent Bystander
Jan 14
He's an outstanding wrestler.
sweep the leg!
Jan 14
I would put him well above Arnold and Jutcawitz. I would also put Lish above Aldi all day long. Iamuuno is a very talented kid and will prove a lot Post season. Lish has gotten exponentially better in the past year! He is/has beaten kids that are ranked in NY,PA,NJ, ect. This is going to be a great class to watch.
sweep the leg!
Jan 14
I think it should be Rapuano,Lishness ,Iamunno in my opinion. Given that Joey is a freshman and he should beat the top guys head to head being they’re upperclassmen.
Innocent Bystander
Jan 15
Agree.
sweep the leg!
Jan 14
But......Rapuano could also be 113 ......so don’t count your chickens before they hatch!
Did Bergin move to upstate NY?
I believe he did move to upstate NY
Make sure for your initial rankings to move Fairfield Ludlowe wrestlers (Nicholas @ 126 and Pressler @ 113) to the LLs, and to move any of the Amity wrestlers into the L rankings (e.g., Flaherty @ 182).
Alex Marshall of Bristol Eastern will wrestle at 152.
I am not sure why D'Sean Martin from Simsbury is No 2 in Class L and not the No. 1.
He wrestled Eric Facey from BC at Opens and pinned him. At Class L they did not wrestle but had a common opponent: Mackenzie from New London. Mackenzie beat Martin in a 3-1 decision in the consi semis and then pinned Facey in the 3rd place match in 1:22.
Need to get Kahlil Bourjelli from New Milford into the mix at 138. Likely top 3 finisher with the ability to win the whole bracket.
rapuano is clearly 113 + . Lindner beat Thompson today.
Class L rankings are updated (sorry for the delay, been a busy holiday season). I think i have captured most of the results, but I'm sure i have missed something, so please loyal Class L fans, tell me what I've messed up. Be brutal :)
Just a note, I dropped Tyler Sung off as he has not wrestled yet this year and I understand that he has had offseason surgery and may not wrestle this year. He clearly would be at #1 at any weight he goes, but until I get some results, I left him off the rankings.
Dropping Tyler Sung from Class rankings is fair if he is inactive, but he should stay in P4P.
Well, I'm biased being a New Canaan fan, but I don't see how you drop Ben Clay from 4 to 6 in 285 for going 11-1 with the only loss being a 3OT gasser and all victories by fall, but whatever. Looking at the kids above him, none have done as well, though I give Martin a pass for the level of competition he's faced. There's a lot of wrestling left to do and I'm sure a lot of questions will be answered on the mat.
I don't think anyone is going to be "brutal," you've got a tough job especially considering the sorry state of results reporting. Weight classes are still moving around a bit and some kids with more losses have had them facing much tougher competition. We (other site users) need to help out more with sifting through the results and pointing out the key matches--otherwise you're trying to clean the Augean Stables in a day. It's still too early to have real confidence in the Class rankings, but they do show us who to keep an eye on.
Michael minevich from east lyme went 3-1 the branford tournament only losing to luis Bradley and earlier on he beat ranked kids like Monty goldberg from staples and luke velpo from branford
Kasson from Simsbury is wresting 120 not 126.
Rapuano wrestled 113 at eastern states so he is certified to do it . Just because he’s wrestling 120 I wouldn’t rank him there. Why would he certify there if he doesn’t intend to wrestle opens and New England’s there?
there was a 4lb allowance at eastern states
@robertjmastroianni yes Rob but the way it was explained to me was if a wrestler doesn’t certify to wrestle at 115(113) he/she can’t wrestle that weight anywhere regardless of allowance.
@sweep the leg! You are correct on the rules.
Sweep could be wrong but since it is out of state they can go under their certified Connecticut weights. I am not sure of this but I think that may be true. I also do not know what weight Mike is certified at.
I’m not wrong! They can’t wrestle at a national event at a weight they did not certify for. Just because it’s out of state doesn’t mean you can break rules and cut a ton of weight that you weren’t certified to cut to. If you did not certify 108 you can’t wrestle 106 anywhere . If you didn’t certify 115 you can’t wrestle 113 anywhere. #facts
It makes no difference if you are the only person matrat that seems to care about this website , and it’s rankings. Good for L but sucks for everyone else. I’m sure you’ve see my posts in general forum. We are a month into the season and have a ton of kids at the wrong weights. Is this going to be fixed?
I have no idea, I don't do the rankings.
@Matratohboy oh ok my bad 🤗 I thought you were one of the 4 moderators.
Arnold From Wethersfield Is 113
Lot of passion of the forums today. Love it.
I am going through results and will update rankings tomorrow. Kids weights are still moving around, so please be patient as I do my best to get kids in their right weight. It is quite possibly the most frustrating part of the ranking process. Any insights are welcome, especially if you know the kids/coaches and know where they are planning on wrestling at states. Simsbury is one of the most frustrating teams as they were moving kids weights around right up to the end of the year. They have a lot of talented wrestlers and I understand coaches do it to help the team/kids, but it does make rankings harder. All insights are appreciated.
That’s coach Silva for you lol. Thx for the updates.
Class L 285
Facey from Bristol Central (285) has no results this year. If he isn't wrestling, he should be dropped (as was done with Sung and others). If anyone has results for him, kindly clue us in.
St. Peter beat D'Sean Martin (3OT) at John Gorman Invitational in RI last Sat. It's amazing how many matches St. Peter takes to overtime, but it seems to work for him.
Highley--No results. there was a dual w/ New London, but nothing online that I could find.
Coscia lost to Rescanski (Foran Class M #3) 1/2 No other results as Amity doesn't seem to report.
Clay went 4-0 at Long Island West Islip Duals (Islip, West Islip, West Babylon, and South Side), 1/11 took 2nd at Greater Hartford Open at Hall HS--lost to Thomas Perry of Haddam Killingworth in the final. Clay was sidelined with the flu and did not compete at Class L last year (sent JV kid instead) so he isn't on the board.
Note for Open Rankers:
Thomas Perry this season has victories over D'Sean Martin (2L), Minsook Lee (1 M, 1 Open), LeDuc (6th S), Ralsky (5M), Clay (6L))--seems Perry should be ranked in Open having beat the Open #1 as well as 2 of the top 5 RI HWTs (Sanford, Coventry & Giles, Chariho).
I also agree with an ealier post. D'Sean Martin pinned Facey at the Opens. Why is he behind him in the Class ranks? They never met at the Class L, so why does the place result (which is a function of brackets/seeds only in this case) carry so much weight?
I have updated the heavies. Facey went 3-1 at the East Haven Duals. he has a number of results this year. I feel comfortable ranking him. Highley went 1-1 at the Killingly Duals and I think 2-2 at the Staples duals last weekend. Lost to Rizy by Pin, no shame there. East Lyme has done all dual meets this year, so it is a bit harder to find their results on Flo, but they all seem to be there. Watching Clay closely, he has some really good results this year, but needs to beat the guys above him to move up. I think he may be able to do it, but I can't move him up on a feeling. Need results. I'm sure they'll come.
@sanctuss7 "Beat the guys above him?" That's just B.S. Clay was 4 in pre-season, you put 2 guys above him that didn't beat him (how did that work?). Clay would have been 5 or 6 seed in Class L CIAC but was scratched due to sickness and New Canaan sent the JV guy in his place. Rankings aren't that important, but don't pretend that 4 & 5 are above him based on results--neither have wrestled him--and you dropped Clay below them w/o needing to see them "beat the guy above them." Coscia was pinned in the first round LL by a guy Clay pinned in 20 seconds.
Iamunno is the #2 in L.
He's an outstanding wrestler.
I would put him well above Arnold and Jutcawitz. I would also put Lish above Aldi all day long. Iamuuno is a very talented kid and will prove a lot Post season. Lish has gotten exponentially better in the past year! He is/has beaten kids that are ranked in NY,PA,NJ, ect. This is going to be a great class to watch.
I think it should be Rapuano,Lishness ,Iamunno in my opinion. Given that Joey is a freshman and he should beat the top guys head to head being they’re upperclassmen.
Agree.
But......Rapuano could also be 113 ......so don’t count your chickens before they hatch!