Rankings Update

I agree with you.

I know no one is suggesting week-to-week removals. I was highlighting that it seems we put way too much focus on a couple of HS CIAC tournaments that happen on specific dates. It seems some have the view that if a wrestler isn't available on those dates, they should be dropped from the rankings. Taken to the extreme, the rankings devolve to a barely relevant tournament ranking. I just think that is nearsighted.

That's fair. I think we hit the "Publish" button the same time. :-)

I also think the "open" rankings ought to be our "best of the best" at each weight class independent of Class or CIAC/NEPSAC status, not just focused on a single tournament or point in time. It's a ridiculously tough task to (fairly) determine who will be healthy each weekend. Every wrestler would be one staph/ring worm infection away from being dropped from the rankings. I wouldn't envy the moderators their job of trying to sort all that out--especially when you ad in the incentives of each poster advocating for their wrestlers. Of course, this isn't my web site, so I defer to the guys actually running/funding/maintaining it and only wish to express my gratitude for the hard work they do to support CT Wrestling.

@Innocent Bystander If a wrestler is out for the season, I am not sure I agree with leaving him/her in the rankings. If there is a chance they may return for states, then it makes sense to leave them on the list. If anyone from out of state wants to know who the best wrestlers are from Connecticut for upcoming matches, it does not help them to see a wrestler's name who is out for the season. If one wants to know the best wrestlers the state produces, they will not look on this site but will look at the results from the national/regional tournaments. Many people use this site to track the performance of active wrestlers. Again, if a wrestler has a chance of returning during the season, by all means, keep them on the list. Also, the best by accomplishment are readily accessible in the CT HS Wrestling Record Book.

@scott If they are done and are not competing "this season" (whatever that means--do you mean HS season? If so, that should be irrelevant for P4P) then I guess it is fair to drop them from the Class rankings. No one has verified that either of these kids is "out for the season" we have an unverified report that one is academically ineligible and a verified report that a kid is injured with an unverified rumor that the injury ends his HS season.

Kids that are academically ineligible can become eligible by working hard in school or picking up credits from a local CC. Fall Semester is about to end, maybe they can pull it out of the fire. Can someone verify that Adams is out with no chance to recover eligibility?

I've seen nothing that says Sung is out for the season and when I spoke to Tyler in late November, he was expecting to return. Plans change and sometimes kids are more optimistic about a return (or foolish about returning before they're ready) than is warranted, so maybe Sung really is out--I just haven't heard it from anyone who would actually know.

I also heard that Ryan Jack was out for the season, but that rumor was false--he just won the Danbury holiday tournament in his usual convincing manner.

@scott I've thought a little more about your response and I think we just have different views/objectives for the purpose of this website. We've seen the dads line up to argue someone should lose their ranking for inactivity every single year on this and other sites. Two years ago, when Jakob Camacho was injured, people wanted him out of the rankings (silly), last year it was Justin Mastroianni (who came back and won Class L, State Opens, and took second at NE all after a national championship). If the goal of this web site is to be a "dad forum" then fine--toss 'em all and put your kid at the top (but the site will never thrive). If the goal is to promote CT Wrestling, then I think tossing our best for risking the most is a bad policy. If we continue to have a HS in-season-only focus, it will be tough to advance CT Wrestling.

I think I would also reverse what you said about this site. People wanting to research upcoming matches would go to Flo. People wanting to see who we think our best is will come here. We give them the names, Flo gives them the analytics/video national/regional results.

I agree with you that the burden of proof of who is "out for the (HS) season" rests on those who want that wrestler removed from the rankings.

The other one on the P4P ranking that has been absent from the results is Mazur. Any word on him?